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Psssst, Romney Detractors…Part 1 – To the Ron Paul Supporters

31 Aug

I won’t rehash the recent events which took place at the RNC (Remember Maine 2012) and are alleged to have been mandated by Romney himself.  There is certainly plenty on the internet to make your own determination. Robert Long at the Bangor Daily News provides a good overview along with several good links providing additional detail. Another good timeline of the Maine Caucuses leading up to the Maine State Convention is provided by Wikipedia.

What these good citizens are choosing to ignore is that the Delegate challenges began in Maine, initiated by fellow Republicans Peter Cianchette and Jan Staples – not by Mitt Romney.  In the end, it was the Ron Paul Delegates who refused to compromise despite allegations that unqualified participants were allowed to cast votes at the Maine State Convention in May. Not a single article, blog, etc. has credibly tied the Maine Delegate mess directly to Mitt Romney. Not one.  What my research did find is that if there is a culprit, it is the Ron Paul supporters and their state convention coup in Maine. Nevada and Minnesota Delegates experienced similar issues with Paul supporters who decided to buck caucus wins by Romney and cast their votes for Ron Paul instead. Based on the results of the Nevada caucuses in February, Romney should have received 20 of the 28 votes, but nine Paul supporters slated to vote for Romney cast their vote for Paul instead. When you start looking at the cumulative, is it any wonder that the RNC tried to find a way to stop this convention nonsense in the future?

The Virginia Delegates were also in an uproar regarding their lost bus which they are convinced was also coordinated by Mitt Romney himself to prevent them from voting against the RNC rules change. Let’s not get side-tracked folks, buses get lost. I’ once coordinated buses for an event of about 2500 people – in Chicago. In a city the size of Tampa, it is not unusual that they would have to recruit drivers from outside the area to accommodate their needs. These drivers are subject to geographical issues just like any other out-of-towner.  Despite all of our best attempts, we had wayward buses at our event in Chicago. A central VA Tea Party group had a bus driver who took us on a two-hour trip out of DC last year because he didn’t take the exit that is less than a block from Union Station. On the day of the John Stewart Rally, yeah, that was fun. Americans For Prosperity planners failed to coordinate the buses at the recent Defending the Dream Summit in DC, resulting in hundreds of attendees waiting for well over an hour for their shuttles to Upper Senate Park only to arrive at Union Station and be told that we were being sent back because the event was over. And I was once on a corporate outing where our driver decided to bring us back to central Virginia from Hot Springs, VA by way of West Virginia. Buses get lost folks, it isn’t always about a conspiracy.

But this November is not just about Ron Paul; it isn’t just about Mitt Romney; it isn’t even about the RNC (Committee or Convention), or the Paul supporters, or lost buses. What it is about is our liberty. A Ron Paul supporter from Virginia asked me if I was willing to trade liberty for security. Seriously? This young father of three is actually considering staying at home or writing in Ron Paul in the November election because he feels that the Maine and Virginia delegations got a raw deal and it is all Romney’s fault when there is no evidence to support that claim.

So this person is willing to trade EVERYONE’s liberty just to make a point? Is acting like a petulant spoiled child a wise move when the stakes are this high? Like it or not, we have a two-paryy political system – even Ron Paul himself did not run as Ron Paul (L).  If you don’t like the process, work to change it for the elections in 2014 and 2016 and beyond. Obviously, we didn’t work hard enough to make the change this time around.  That can’t be blamed on Mitt Romney. We didn’t get here overnight, folks.

As a citizen of this great country, I resent the hell out of anyone who deems to sit on his or her sanctimonious high-horse and hand this election over to Barack Hussein Obama in the equivalent of an adult hissy fit. If the RonPaulians and the rest of the people who got their feelings hurt at the Convention (for whatever reason) are comfortable with that moral decision and the devastating consequences that are sure to follow, then God help us all.

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20 responses to “Psssst, Romney Detractors…Part 1 – To the Ron Paul Supporters

  1. Rnc threw the election

    August 31, 2012 at 11:14 pm

    I think you are failing to miss the point. Ron Paul people don’t care who wins because they are the same to us. Romney will add to the deficit, expand government, keep us in the wars, continued the same failed monetary policy, the same destruction of our freedoms. A vote for Romney is a vote for obama its the same thing he just happens to have an R next to his name. The Ron Paul people are republicans REAL republicans. Traditional republicans. We are disheartened by the direction the neoconservative faction which is the biggest faction of the republican party has taken us. If both candidates mean no change and essentially will give us the same outcome then what does it matter? Alot will prolly vote for Obama especially now with the rnc rules change which hands a re-election to Romney without the peoples vote. If they vote Obama and he wins we only have to put up with 4 more years before we get another change to try a true conservative again. Romney we will have to wait 8 years and frankly i dunno what things are gonna be like in 8 years the way the republican/democrats have ran this place to the ground with their destruction of the dollar and big government deficit spending. George Bush jr. ran in 2000 on a nonintervention foreign policy and WON, granted he didnt actually do that. Obama won on that too same thing he didnt come through. If you read what the republican party is even Reagan himself said libertarianism is the heart of the republican party. Ron Paul was on of the only represenatatives that endorsed ronald reagan. The republican party is RON PAUL and it has been for decades. The very definition of a republican is RON PAUL. Freedom is a winning platform period and while the neoconservative faction of the party is currently shrinking the liberty movement and tea party is growing. Conservative talk radio is in the TANK ratings are terrible and its because republicans are waking up across the nation to the fact their is very little difference from democrat and republican PERIOD. So you vote for Romney express your right to vote but ill be the one driving with the dont blame me i voted for ron paul sticker on my bumper. Until things change we are only gonna get bigger and become even more of a nuisance to the establishment like you.

     
    • Deborah Sampson

      September 1, 2012 at 9:49 pm

      Rncthrew, if you think that we will only have to put up with 4 more years of Obama if he prevails you clearly have not been paying attention. The RNC rule changes will be the least of your worries in 4 years. If we need a third party, so be it, but now is not the time to make that decision. Even Rand Paul supports Romney because he is smart enough to realize that our first priority is to get Obama OUT. Have you forgotten Obama’s off mic remarks to the Russion President Dmitry Medvedev “This is my last election. After my election, I have more flexibility” . What exactly do you think that means? It means that as a second term president, he can and will do whatever he wants to do.

      The irony of all this is that in February many conservatives accused Romney and Ron Paul of being in cahoots against them.

      Stop acting like a spoiled brat, this isn’t about you.

       
  2. tony m

    September 1, 2012 at 7:42 am

    The choice between the DEM controller and the GOP Soviet controller, is who can ruin the country the fastest.

    I have experienced the GOP Soviets in my town Repub committee, and county.

    I am an American Republican not a GOP Soviet. The Ron Paul people are the Patriots.

    Those following the GOP are loyalists. It seems that is due to ignorance of history. They just don’t want to research what are the core causes of this nations problems. They continue to back band-aids. That is liberal.

     
    • Deborah Sampson

      September 4, 2012 at 6:43 pm

      I have a dear and special friend who attempted to run against Frank Wolf in VA’s 10th Congressional District. The 10th District could not have had a finer or more honorable man. The Loudon County GOP exercised tryannical means to ensure that Frank Wolf had no primary opponent and even the RC chair said Wolf’s successor had been selected – when Frank was ready to retire. Then they sent their attack dogs to slander this man and his family. So I get it, I really do, because I have seen it first hand, but we are making strides. Bill Bolling was lined up for the governorship when he relinquished “his turn” to Bob McDonnell, but guess what, its nobody’s damn turn, so we’re supporting Ken Cuccinelli and it is pissing off the RPV to no end. But hey, it takes time and it takes hard work. We did not get here over night. If we need a third party, yee hah, but this is not the expedient time to do make that decision.

      I can separate Romney from the GOP because my focus is to get Obama out of office ASAP. Fixing the GOP is secondary to that.

       
  3. oaebcr

    September 1, 2012 at 7:44 am

    The RNC broke its own rules and repaced Maine delegates that would be supportive of Romney. Concerning Romney’s knowledge and involvement in efforts to strip/replace Paul delegates in Maine, please reference Ben Swann Reality Check segments on the issue. The RNC and Romney (by extension?) represent shysters, crooks and liars. Vote for Gary Johnston this election cycle, but he may not be on your ballot due to efforts by Romney’s lawyers to have the Libertarian ticket removed from ballots in several states.

     
  4. pdh

    September 1, 2012 at 10:01 am

    I’m all in favor of Obama winning reelection. If the Republican party really was interested in winning the election, they would not have been so vindictive and self destructive in alienating a huge portion of their base and cheating during the primaries and the convention. But let’s address your Romney candidacy. Let’s just say Romney won the election. What then? I personally think that the Republican party deserves to lose and deserves to be relegated to the ranks of irrelevancy, but IF Romney were to win, then what? Just what exactly would change, in your own mind? Would the DHS and the TSA disappear? Has Romney even made any noise AT ALL about restoring the lost freedoms of the last two administrations? No. He would do as Obama did; continue the policies of his predecessor and not offer up anything different. The only difference between Obama and Romney is that Obama made all kinds of noise about “hope and change,” whereas Romney isn’t even pretending to have any solutions and isn’t even pretending that he would be a protector of our freedoms. Is he?

     
  5. Twaddlefree

    September 1, 2012 at 1:25 pm

    Interesting that in defending Romney, you also defend the Republicans who DID attempt to negate the Constitutional election process. No delegate is obligated to vote according to numbers. If there is an issue with the delegate system, then it should be changed in the proper manner, not by use of polite thuggery. There appears to be NO LIMIT to what the GOP will do to get the candidate it wants on the ticket, and this applies in every state.

     
    • Deborah Sampson

      September 1, 2012 at 7:49 pm

      No, Twaddle, what I said was that considering the way the Ronulons were acting “When you start looking at the cumulative, is it any wonder that the RNC tried to find a way to stop this convention nonsense in the future?” That is not the same thing as defending the action. Not by a long shot. I happen to agree that any change should be done in a proper manner, but I spent hours researching the backstory. Perhaps if the Ronulons had acted like adults instead of petulant children and crybabies, the situation would have had a different outcome.

       
  6. Deborah Sampson

    September 1, 2012 at 7:43 pm

    What I find interesting is that the Ronulons are so prescient as to be absolutely certain of every move and decision that Romney will make in the future. Can you tell me what the Mega Millions numbers will be, I’d like to play on Tuesday.

    Face it, Ron Paul does not have the lockdown on Patriotism or Republicanism. Some of us are just aware that we must work within the current system while simultaneously working to change it. Like I said, we didn’t get here overnight. By the way, where were all you Ronulons over the past 12 years? Suddenly you want change and you demand it now? Sorry, doesn’t work that way kiddies. I know your Mommies taught you that you get your way if you throw a fit, but that doesn’t work in the real world. Or is your Mommy still buying your Spiderman underpants for you?

    Anyone who is so naive as to think that an Obama win only means another four years of irritation is sadly mistaken. Watch for QE 3, 4, 5, 6, 7….. Watch for hyperinflation that makes the Weimer Republic look like the Reagan years…..Watch for trillions more in stimulus, a massive expansion of government, an meteoric increase in entitlement programs, bankruptcy of medicare and social security, the complete anihalation of American fuel resources, and the elimination of the 1st, 2nd, and 10th Amendments. To start. And you call yourselves the only true Republicans? Traitor is more like it.

    On top of the unfettered shredding of the Constitution that will be perpetuated by King Obama, do you really think he will do more than Romney to get our armed services out of harm’s way as he systematically dismantles our defense system? Yeah, I know you guys are isolationists, which proves you don’t know your Constitution in the least. Defending the country is one of the only things the federal government is supposed to be doing.

    And let’s not forget that the next president will likely seat at least three new Supreme Court Judges. We cannot afford another Elena Kagan or Sonia Sotomayor on the Supreme Court. Those appointments have life-long consequences for all of us.

    So go ahead, stamp your little feet and whine that you didn’t get your way, but you’d better start thinking above a first grade level or be prepared to endure a future that will mean the end of this country as we know it. If you’re okay with that, then go ahead, put your little “Don’t Blame Me I Voted For Ron Paul” sticker on your car so the rest of us will know exactly who to blame.

    By the way, Rnc threw, you really are a piece of work. Conservative talk radio is in the tank and ratings are terrible – provide a single iota of proof that is true. You crack me up.

     
    • James

      September 1, 2012 at 10:16 pm

      Great Job Deborah!

       
      • GotMullet

        September 2, 2012 at 1:00 pm

        Here, here! Go Deborah!

         
  7. GotMullet

    September 2, 2012 at 1:37 pm

    The Paulies are spoiled little brats. The primaries spoke, so it’s time to get behind our candidate. And, you’d think that Ron Paul himself would try to tone down his own robotic followers.

    I was for Romney all through the primary process. It unnerved me the way (and the reasons!) Romney was attacked, and most of the “conservative” commentary, from those that should have known better, just piled on. The primary was a hard fought, and much of it was for good reason. Clarity of purpose going forward had to be defined. We have the clarity of issues needed for THIS fight, and we have the BEST candidate for THIS fight.

    All of the former competitors (save the self-important Ron Paul) have gotten on board with our common battle to defeat the Left this next election, and we will need every last ounce of support to turn this tide. I am very optimistic for November, and once it is done…. I think we will all be surprised at how well things can turn around under a President Romney.

    If Paul were the Republican candidate, and even if he COULD win the next election, he would be a president standing alone, much like he is serving now in congress. He would be there, but not a lot of agreement from any side. Maybe he has a couple of good ideas, but the president is not a dictator. (With Obama, we already have one as close to a nepotistic dictator as we can get in our system, and he has got to go!)

    I would venture to say that Paul would have a really, really hard time getting anything (even the good ideas) written into law. He is just that extreme.

     
  8. tony m

    September 3, 2012 at 7:19 am

    Will the this blog owner and/or any of the those who commented here accept my Ultimate Debate challenge against a Ron Paul supporter in your area? This would be an excellent appropriate adult environment to help America in.

    A weekday is preferred. 3rd or 4th week in October gives enough time to prepare. What area would the UD take place in? How many of you will be defending your positions and candidates?

    http://www.VeteranShowdown.com

     
  9. Deborah Sampson

    September 4, 2012 at 6:35 pm

    tony m – “This would be an excellent appropriate adult environment to help America in.” Help America in? In what? Usher in tyranny through four more years of Obama?

    First, if you are a veteran – thank you for your service – sincerely. I work with retired and separated service members every day; I feel blessed to do so.

    But here’s the BLUF – the debates and primaries are over my friend and none of us are running for office. Ron Paul LOST. By a LOT. Romney beat him on the Primary delegate count 10 (1522) to 1 (158). Even if every other GOP candidate handed their primary delegates over to Paul, he STILL would have been beaten by Romney by a measure of 3 (1522) to 1(553). To give you the hard primary numbers – Romney received 10,023,280 popular votes (52.12%) and Paul received 2,095,619 votes (10.90%) – Paul received LESS of the primary popular vote than either Santorum and Gingrich.

    So now to the Convention delegates, Mitt Romney received 1,399 hard votes (61.20%) and Ron Paul received 100 hard votes (4.37%) – again less than either Santorum or Gingrich and they had extricated themselves from the race. Of the Convention Floor votes, Romney received 2,061 (90.16%) and Paul received 185 (8.09%). Either way you cut it, Paul was left bloody on the battlefield. Even his own son endorsed Mitt Romney – what does that tell you?

    So as I said, the time for the debates is over. Dr. Paul led his followers to believe they could stage a coup at the Convention and – despite the votes of millions of Americans during the primary process – overturn the expressed will of fellow Americans and hand him the nomination. That didn’t happen (this isn’t the first rodeo for the RNC), so instead of rallying around the nominee you guys are expending every ounce of your energy to ensure that you hand Obama a win in November. The most recent Rasmussen poll has Romney at 48%, Obama at 44%, ALL other 3%, and undecided 5%. That’s 5% up for grabs. 5%. Even if you get every single undecided voter you’re up to a whopping 8%. With Obama’s penchant for voter fraud, that 8% could turn the election in his favor.

    Thats the bottom-line my friend, at this stage of the game, being a Paul supporter and being an Obama supporter are synonymous. Ross Perot and his followers gave us Clinton. This is more than about Ron Paul’s narcissistic need to become a cult hero than it is about anything else. This is NOT a noble cause. Dr. Paul needs to reign it in because now he is acting just like a washed up Colonel who sends his troops running head-long into disaster for his own glory.

    The RNC absolutely should have taken a roll call and should not have changed the rules without a clear and defined aye vote for the rules change, but Mitt Romney is NOT the RNC any more than I am. I don’t know what it’s going to take to pacify the Paul supporters or to jar them out of their trance, but just ask yourself, are you prepared to hand your children, grandchildren, and fellow Americans an absolute Marxist/Leninist/Socialist/Communist regime because that is exactly what you are doing. (Then again, I saw a recent Paul supporter post that communism and socialism are sound principles, so perhaps that is the end game.) A vote for Ron Paul IS a vote for Obama. I can’t make it any more clear than that. We ARE a two-party system. No amount of debates is going to change that in 60 days.

    Want to change the way things are done – http://godfatherpolitics.com/6860/taking-over-the-gop-one-election-at-a-time/, but no, I won’t be debating anyone because my efforts now have to be doubled against both Obama AND the Ron Paul and Gary Johnson supporters who don’t give a damn whether they give us Obama the Tyrant and that is exactly what will happen.

     
  10. Rick Graham

    September 5, 2012 at 7:59 am

    What you fail to see is that first we believe Romney and Obama are the same obviously you don’t, but to us it doesn’t matter what you believe and we told you all along we wouldn’t vote for Romney. It isn’t a hissy fit. It’s a matter of sticking to our principles. We won’t vote for either of these two bank controlled war mongers period. No matter what you think both candidates are the same and their will be no change. Romney can’t win without us and as a God fearing Christian I can’t vote for either of them.

     
    • Deborah Sampson

      September 5, 2012 at 3:21 pm

      So you’re voting for the Soros-funded Ron Paul instead and ultimately handing a win to the Soros-funded Obama. Either way, Soros wins. Brilliant strategy! Soros has played all of you like a cheap jukebox.

       
  11. Giovanni G.

    September 8, 2012 at 4:23 pm

    All I keep hearing is “we need to get Obama out”… and replace him with what? Romney?am I supposed to betray everything I believe in just to get some one out of office? and vote for some one whom I have absolutely no faith in? I too will be driving with the “don’t blame me, I voted for Ron Paul” sticker… because its not about the (R) or the (D) its about the individual and their essence, what they stand for and their record and most of all the Direction they want to take the country in, if people would just pay more attention to character and values then both (R) and (D) would be in a whole lot of trouble.

     
  12. Giovanni G.

    September 8, 2012 at 4:32 pm

    Asking me to choose between Obama and Romney is like asking me to choose between Lethal injection or a bullet in the head.

    And no, we won’t have a tyrant no matter who wins, a crappy president yes, but a tyrant no, as long as true patriots exists tyrants are short lived.

     
    • Deborah Sampson

      September 9, 2012 at 12:40 pm

      If you think an Obama win simply means a crappy presidency, you haven’t been paying attention. What I find fascinating is that you’re so sure of what Romney will do. I think you are dismissing him simply because he beat Ron Paul.

       
      • GotMullet

        September 9, 2012 at 4:55 pm

        Paulies are entrenched in mindlessness. Self involved narcissism…. and unfortunately…. Western civilization seems to be moving in that direction. Pop culture act-outers. Our only hope, as I see it, is to get Romney in to bring some sense of respect back to our national direction. This is our last gasp to move things somewhere noteworthy and honorable.

         

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